At RockPoint Law, lemon law is our core practice, and we act for drivers in Kiryas Joel and the Town of Palm Tree whose new vehicle keeps going back to the dealer for the same fault, maybe a transmission that shudders on the ramp onto Route 17, or a collision warning that brakes hard for nothing on 17M, or a screen that goes dark when you're halfway to the Thruway.
Three quick questions. No cost, no obligation.
Sending this does not create an attorney-client relationship. A case evaluation is a first step, not legal representation.
The statute is statewide, so the tests are the same ones every New Yorker faces, and a vehicle that fails them is owed a buyback or a replacement, whichever you choose. What changes is the geography, because the Attorney General's program can hear your case in Middletown and the county courthouse is in Goshen. We don't have an office in Kiryas Joel, and our New York office is in Manhasset.
Our New York attorney: Steven P. Nassi, New York Attorney Registration No. 4263489, licensed in New York since 2004.
The figures a Kiryas Joel claim runs into, in the order it meets them, from the first repair order to a court in Orange County.
| Key figure | What it means | Where it comes from |
|---|---|---|
| 18,000 milesor two years | The defect has to be reported inside this window, counted from original delivery, whichever limit comes first. A later owner who took the vehicle over is still on the first owner's clock. | Section 198-a(b)(1), (d) and (i) |
| 4 repairsone defect | One problem has gone in for repair four or more times inside the window and is still there. Visits to different dealers accumulate. | Section 198-a(d)(1) |
| 30 daysoff the road | A running total of calendar days out of service for repair, weekends included, across one or more defects. | Section 198-a(d)(2) |
| 20 daysafter your letter | If the dealer hasn't begun repairs seven days after your report, the manufacturer gets twenty days from receiving your certified letter to start. | Section 198-a(b)(2) |
| Middletown1 of 30 sites | The only Orange County hearing location on the Attorney General's request form. Newburgh and Goshen aren't on the list. | AG request form, question 22 |
| $250filing fee | Paid only when the administrator asks. The day it arrives is the filing date, the written decision is due within forty days of it, and a winning consumer gets the fee back. | AG request form; 13 NYCRR 300.5 and 300.16(a), (c) |
| $3,000town court limit | The most the Palm Tree Town Court can hear in a civil or small claims case. A buyback belongs in Supreme Court in Goshen or in arbitration. | Uniform Justice Court Act section 202 |
| 90 daysto challenge an award | The time either side has, after the award is delivered, to ask a court to vacate or modify it. Heard in Middletown and living in Kiryas Joel, that court is in Orange County. | CPLR 7511(a); section 198-a(k) |
| 4 yearsfrom delivery | The limit for starting an action, counted from original delivery. Treat it as the outer limit for arbitration too. | Section 198-a(j) |
Drivers in Kiryas Joel are covered by New York's statewide lemon law. A new vehicle bought, leased or registered in New York qualifies if one warranty defect has been repaired four or more times and is still there, or if repairs have kept it out of service for a total of 30 days, within 18,000 miles or two years of delivery. The manufacturer then has to buy the vehicle back or replace it, whichever you choose. Claims can go to the Attorney General's arbitration program, which lists Middletown as its Orange County hearing location.
New vehicles fall under General Business Law section 198-a. Used vehicles bought from a dealer have their own statute, section 198-b. Both are set out in full on our New York lemon law page. What follows is the Orange County side: where you would be heard, which courts sit nearby, and a few rules about who counts as a consumer that come up more often than people expect.
Kiryas Joel is a village in Orange County, and it shares its boundaries with the Town of Palm Tree. The state's environmental agency described the two as coterminous in a March 2026 decision. You may see either name on a registration, a court notice or the arbitration paperwork, and the claim is the same either way. The county is what matters. Under section 198-a(k), a court proceeding over an arbitration award can be brought only where you live or where the hearing took place, and for a Kiryas Joel household heard in Middletown both answers are Orange County.
One is enough. The same defectUnder section 198-a(d)(1), the presumption applies when one nonconformity, defect or condition has gone in for repair at least four times during the first 18,000 miles or two years from original delivery, whichever ends first, and it still exists. The 30-day route is subdivision (d)(2), which totals repair days across one or more defects. back in the shop four or more times and still not fixed. A running total of 30 calendar days out of service, where separate faults count together. Or a dealer that has not begun repairs within seven days of your report, followed by a manufacturer that lets 20 days pass after receiving your certified letter.
Two conditions sit in front of all of this. The vehicle has to be used primarily for personal, family or household purposes, which the Attorney General reads as personal use more than half of the time. And the claim runs against the manufacturer, not the dealer that sold the car. Where the state law does not fit, the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act sometimes does. Our lemon law glossary explains the terms you will see on repair orders and forms.
State law sets these tests, so they read the same in Orange County as in Albany or Buffalo. Meet any one and the law presumes the manufacturer has had a fair chance to fix the vehicle. Open an Orange County example, or run your own repair orders through the self-test. The exact statutory wording is on our New York lemon law page.
One problem has gone in for repair four or more times inside 18,000 miles or two years and is still there. Visits to different dealers all count, so an order from a Middletown service desk and another from one near the Thruway add up to the same total. What can split them apart is wording. Tell each service writer the same symptom in the same words, and check the complaint line before you sign.
Repairs have kept the vehicle off the road for 30 or more calendar days altogether. Under section 198-a(d)(2) the days can come from different defects. Calendar days means weekends and holidays count, so a vehicle dropped off on a Friday and collected the next Wednesday has used six. Circle the in and out dates on every order.
You reported the defect and, seven days on, the dealer has still not begun repairs. Send the manufacturer a certified letter, return receipt requested. From the day it receives that letter it has 20 days to start work. If it misses that, you can claim a refund or replacement with no repair count at all. Keep a note of each call, with the date and the name of whoever gave you the next available appointment.
The defect must first show up before 18,000 miles or two years from original delivery, whichever comes first, and the filing limit is four years from that same date. Regular runs on Route 17 and the Thruway add miles quickly, so the mileage line can arrive well before the second anniversary. Read the odometer at every drop-off.
Every visit should end with a printed order showing your complaint, the drop-off date, the pick-up date and the mileage. Ask for one even when the technician finds nothing wrong. Matching complaint wording carries a four-repair claim, and accurate dates carry a 30-day claim.
Keep the original delivery paperwork with the orders, even if the vehicle came to you from someone else, because question 5 of the state form asks for the delivery date and the mileage at delivery. And keep a note of each call to a service desk that put you off, with the date and the name of the person you spoke to. That note is how a refusal route gets proved.
Not sure which route your repair history meets? Send it and get a straight answer.
This is a self-check against the statutory test, not legal advice, and it does not create an attorney-client relationship.
A New York lemon law claim can be decided by an arbitrator or by a judge, and with arbitration you're the one who picks the hearing site, while with a lawsuit it's the county and the dollar figure that decide which court. From Kiryas Joel, the hearing site on the state's list is Middletown, and the main courthouse is in Goshen, which is about 9 miles away in a straight line.
Question 22 of the request for arbitration offers 30 hearing locations. Middletown is the only one in Orange County; Newburgh and Goshen do not appear. Under section 300.7(f), hearings are fitted around your time-of-day needs where possible, evenings and weekends included, so write any limits on the form.
The Orange County Supreme Court sits at 285 Main Street, Goshen. It hears the larger civil cases, which is where a full buyback claim belongs. Orange County Court shares the address but handles civil claims only up to $25,000. A challenge to an award also lands here when you live in Orange County and were heard in Middletown.
The Palm Tree Town Court, at 46 Bakertown Road, is inside the village. Like every town and village justice court in New York, it hears civil claims of up to $3,000, small claims included. That limit rules it out for a refund or replacement on a recent vehicle, though it can work fine for a small dispute over a repair bill.
Orange County belongs to the Southern District of New York. Under 28 U.S.C. section 112(b) that court sits in New York City, in White Plains and in the Middletown-Wallkill area or a nearby location. A Magnuson-Moss claim needs at least $50,000 in controversy to be heard there.
The form goes to the Lemon Law Unit by email, [email protected], or by mail to 28 Liberty Street, 15th Floor, New York. Send the request first, not the fee. The fee waits until the program administrator, the New York State Dispute Resolution Association, asks for it, and under 13 NYCRR section 300.5 the day it receives the $250 becomes the filing date. From there the manufacturer's written answer is due within 15 days and your reply within 25, under section 300.7(c) and (d). The hearing is scheduled no later than day 35, with at least eight days' notice of the date, time and place.
Middletown is the only Orange County choice, but it isn't the only one within reach, because the same list also includes Carmel in Putnam County, Poughkeepsie in Dutchess, Monticello in Sullivan, Kingston in Ulster and Yonkers in Westchester. Section 300.7(g) of the rules names Poughkeepsie and Westchester among the areas where the program keeps regular hearing sites.
The choice you make there has a second effect, too. Under section 198-a(k), a court proceeding over the award can be brought in the county where you live or the county where the hearing was held. If you choose Middletown, both of those are Orange, but if you choose Poughkeepsie or Carmel, then Dutchess or Putnam becomes a second option. Question 23 of the form also lets you ask for a virtual hearing if available, or a documents-only hearing if the manufacturer agrees.
Section 300.16(a) requires the written decision within 40 days of the filing date. Accept a winning award and the manufacturer has 30 days to pay or replace; after that, section 198-a(h) adds $25 per business day of delay, up to $500.
The award is binding on both parties. The only way to challenge it is a court proceeding under Article 75 of the Civil Practice Law and Rules, brought only in the county where you live or where the arbitration was held, and under CPLR 7511(a) either side has 90 days after the award is delivered to apply. For a Kiryas Joel household heard in Middletown, that means Orange County, and the manufacturer cannot move it somewhere else.
Section 300.14(a) says that if a party fails to appear at an oral hearing, the arbitrator still holds it and decides on the evidence presented and the documents in the file. The decision has to show how any award was calculated and, if you win, award the filing fee back to you under section 300.16(c). Section 300.16(f) has the administrator send both parties the final decision no later than day 45.
Claims can settle, too. Section 300.15 lets you withdraw at any point before a decision. If you withdraw within seven business days of the filing date, the administrator refunds the fee.
If you want the order the paperwork goes in, our guide on how to file a lemon law claim covers each document.
The request for arbitration is a form that the Attorney General's office takes by email, and repair orders can be scanned or photographed. The state reviews the request on paper and the program administrator writes to you when the fee is due, so the one appointment you may need to attend in person is the hearing, and for a Kiryas Joel household that can be in Middletown.
Our side of it is putting the repair history in order, matching it to a route, drafting the request, assembling the exhibits, and attending the hearing with you or for you. Your part starts with one call.
A New York claim runs in a set order, and a step taken late can cost weeks. Once the fee arrives the program rules fix the calendar below; a lawsuit in Goshen usually takes longer. Here are the five stages as they play out from Kiryas Joel, from the first repair order to payment. For the document list in detail, see our guide on how to file a lemon law claim.
Start with four questions. Was the vehicle new at original delivery, and are you its buyer, lessee or a later owner who took it over? Is it used mostly for personal or household driving? Is the defect inside 18,000 miles or two years of that first delivery? And was it bought, leased or transferred in New York, or is it registered here? Yes to all four points to section 198-a. A used vehicle from a dealer points to section 198-b instead.
Every visit should end with a printed order showing your complaint, the drop-off date, the pick-up date and the mileage. Ask for one even when the technician finds nothing wrong. Matching complaint wording carries a four-repair claim, and accurate dates carry a 30-day claim. If one visit was on Route 211 and the next near Harriman, keep both orders in the same folder. Every authorized dealer's visit counts.
Once you report a defect, the dealer is supposed to notify the manufacturer in writing within seven days. You have no way of seeing whether that happened, so mail the manufacturer yourself, certified with a return receipt. The same letter can set off the refusal clock: if the dealer has not begun repairs seven days after your report, the manufacturer gets 20 days from receipt to start. File the green return card with your repair orders.
The request for arbitration goes to the Lemon Law Unit by email or by post. Hold the fee back; the form says not to send it yet. After the Attorney General accepts the claim, the program administrator, the New York State Dispute Resolution Association, requests the $250 fee and your papers; its receipt of the fee sets the filing date. The same form is where you pick Middletown as the hearing location and choose a refund or a replacement.
The manufacturer answers in writing by day 15 and your reply is due by day 25. The hearing follows no later than day 35, and 13 NYCRR section 300.16(a) sets the written decision within 40 days of the filing date. Accept a winning award and the manufacturer has 30 days to pay or replace. After that, section 198-a(h) adds $25 per business day, up to $500, and the award returns your filing fee.
Each of those steps is a place where claims go wrong. A repair order that reads "could not duplicate." A letter that only ever went to the dealer. A reply sent after day 25. A hearing where the delivery papers that set the start date stayed in a drawer at home.
You are allowed to run the claim yourself. No lawyer can tell you in advance how an arbitrator will decide. What a firm that prepares these hearings regularly can do is keep the file complete, the notices correct and the dates protected.
When a claim succeeds, section 198-a(c)(1) requires the manufacturer to supply a comparable vehicle or take the vehicle back and refund you, and the statute puts that choice with you: "at the option of the consumer." A refund covers the purchase or lease price, any trade-in allowance, and fees and charges including license and registration fees.
You also decide where the vehicle is returned: either the selling dealer or the dealer that attempted the repairs, and the statute bars any further shipping charge.
The manufacturer may subtract an allowance for your use, but only for miles above 12,000. Section 198-a(a)(4) sets the formula:
Suppose the price was $43,800 and the odometer reads 17,400 miles. That is 5,400 miles over the line, and 5,400 times $43,800, divided by 100,000, comes to $2,365.20. At 12,000 miles or under, the deduction is zero.
Steady highway driving crosses 12,000 miles sooner, so each month of waiting can add to the deduction. A separate, reasonable allowance can be taken for damage beyond normal wear; photos taken before the hearing and receipts for body work answer that argument.
If the vehicle is financed, section 198-a(c)(2) has the refund paid to you and the lender as their interests appear on Department of Motor Vehicles records. A lease is treated as ended on the date of the arbitrator's decision, with no early-termination penalty. Sales tax is refunded by the state, and the manufacturer's refund must come with the application to claim it.
Until then, the Attorney General's guide advises that you keep making payments, because a repossessed vehicle may not be available to return. Keep the insurance and registration current as well.
A consumer who wins in the state program gets the $250 filing fee back under 13 NYCRR section 300.16(c). In court, section 198-a(l) lets the judge award reasonable attorney's fees to a consumer who wins, and the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act has its own fee rule. Every case turns on its facts, so no attorney can tell you in advance what yours is worth.
The price paid plus fees and charges, less a mileage allowance that starts only after 12,000 miles, under section 198-a(c)(1)
A comparable vehicle in place of money, when that is the box you tick on the form
Some claims end once the manufacturer steps in and the fault is fixed properly
If the manufacturer runs past its 30 days, $25 per business day of delay, to a $500 maximum, under section 198-a(h)
Which a court may order the manufacturer to pay under section 198-a(l) or federal warranty law
Outcomes depend on the specific facts of each case, so no attorney can tell you in advance what yours will be.
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VolvoThe statute's definition of a motor vehicle leaves out one class only: off-road vehicles. It sets no limit on seats, length or weight. In most cases what decides it is how the vehicle is used, since the owner has to be using it primarily for personal, family or household purposes. If the state law doesn't go far enough, the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act can pick up. Pick a category below to see where your vehicle stands.
A sedan, a three-row SUV and a 12-seat passenger van are judged by the same tests, because section 198-a(a)(2) sets no size line. So a passenger van counts as long as it's mainly used for personal or household driving. Leased vehicles count the same as ones you bought. If a converter added seats or equipment after the factory, keep that paperwork with your repair orders. See our practice areas.
For pickups, business use is the issue. The Attorney General's guide says a vehicle can be used for business so long as personal use is more than half of the time, and a vehicle titled to a company qualifies on the same condition. A pickup that also runs errands for a shop can pass that test, and one that mainly hauls loads to job sites may not. See our diesel emissions lemon law guide.
New York has covered motorcycles under the new car law since September 1, 2004, according to the Attorney General. Snowmobiles, ATVs and other off-road machines aren't covered. Riding along Route 17M or out to Harriman State Park is normal personal use. See our motorcycle lemon law guide.
Section 198-a(n) covers the chassis and drivetrain of a motor home, but it doesn't cover the living quarters, like the plumbing, flooring, furnace and generator. If the manufacturer or dealer gave you a written copy of the special notice rules, you must report two repairs or 21 days out of service to the manufacturer by certified mail. You can act at three repair attempts or 30 days. See our RV and motorhome lemon law guide.
Battery-electric cars and plug-in hybrids fall under the same statute as gasoline vehicles. The usual problems are range loss, charging failures, drive-unit noise and software faults. If the fix is a software update and the problem comes back, that visit still counts as a repair attempt, so make sure you get a repair order for it. Keep a dated log of failed home charges, too. See our electric vehicle lemon law guide.
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I contacted RockPoint Law in July 2025 and by mid Jan 2026, I had received my settlement proceeds. A mid 5-figure loan was paid off and the manufacturer took possession of the vehicle. Not having that car payment and the mandatory full coverage freed up about $900/month. If you're on the fence about calling RockPoint Law, let it go. The relief you will feel when it all works out will be soooo worth it.
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Read moreYes. A vehicle purchased used from a dealer is distinct from one transferred within a family. That purchase usually falls under General Business Law section 198-b, the used car law, which has its own thresholds. There is one overlap to check first: a vehicle bought while still inside its first 18,000 miles or two years counts as new, and the rules above apply to it.
Section 198-b reaches a car bought or leased from a New York dealer, meaning a seller of at least three cars in the past twelve months. The price has to be at least $1,500, the car can have no more than 100,000 miles when sold, and it has to be used mostly for personal purposes. A private sale isn't covered.
The dealer owes you a written warranty on covered parts, given before or when you sign. Its length depends on the odometer at the sale, as the Attorney General's Used Car Lemon Law guide sets out:
| Odometer at the sale | Minimum warranty |
|---|---|
| 18,001 to 36,000 miles | 90 days or 4,000 miles |
| 36,001 to 79,999 miles | 60 days or 3,000 miles |
| 80,000 to 100,000 miles | 30 days or 1,000 miles |
Covered parts are the engine, transmission, drive axle, brakes and steering, along with the radiator, alternator, generator, starter and ignition system. The battery, body and tires are among the parts left out.
Three or more repair attempts on a covered defect, or fifteen or more days out of service, can entitle you to a full refund. Used car claims go to the same arbitration program and use their own request form on the Attorney General's site. Used motorcycles are covered. Motor homes, off-road vehicles and classic cars registered under section 401 of the Vehicle and Traffic Law are not.
Our core practice is lemon law and consumer warranty claims. In New York the evidence is paper: dated repair orders, the state's request form and whatever you bring to a hearing held where you chose. None of that changes with your street address.
The same attorneys who handle claims nationwide handle them here. Two minutes on who we are and how we work.
Here's how the same Kiryas Joel claim goes when you handle it alone and when you've got an attorney, and you can flip the switch to see the same four moments from each side.
The Palm Tree Town Court is right inside the village, so it's tempting to just file there, but its civil and small claims limit is $3,000. A refund of the purchase price on a recent vehicle is far larger than that, so a claim filed there has to be cut down to fit, and the rest of it is given up.
Question 8 of the state form asks whether the vehicle is used primarily for personal, family or household purposes. If you tick "no" because the vehicle also does some work, a claim the law would allow can end right there, and if you tick "yes" with nothing to back it up, the manufacturer may dispute it at the hearing.
For a vehicle passed on within the family, the 18,000-mile, two-year window runs from the first delivery, not from the handover. If you don't have the original papers, question 5 of the form ends up blank and the timeline turns into something to argue about.
It can feel like holding back your loan payments puts some pressure on the manufacturer. The Attorney General's guide warns against it, though: fall behind and the vehicle may be repossessed, and a vehicle you no longer have may not be available to return for a refund or replacement.
We look at state arbitration in Middletown, a lawsuit in Supreme Court in Goshen and, where at least $50,000 is in controversy, a federal Magnuson-Moss suit, and we lay out the likely remedy and timetable for each one. The choice is yours, and you make it with all of that in front of you.
Before the form gets filed we go through mileage logs, work calendars and receipts, so the answer to question 8 matches the Attorney General's more-than-half test and holds up if somebody challenges it.
We track down the first owner's contract, the delivery record, the transfer and every repair order from both owners, and then we set out the transferee rule in section 198-a(a)(1) and (i) for the arbitrator.
We'll walk you through why the Attorney General's guide says to keep paying, and we hold on to the statements, since the refund is split with the lender according to the ownership records and a lease ends on the decision date with no early-termination penalty.
Going by the U.S. Census Bureau, Kiryas Joel's population was an estimated 47,147 on July 1, 2025, which is the same figure it gives for the Town of Palm Tree. In that same file it's the second-largest village in New York State, after Hempstead, and if you count it as the Town of Palm Tree, it's the most populous town or city in Orange County, whose total was 417,669. The village itself covers under 1.5 square miles of land, so most of the driving that puts miles on a vehicle happens on the roads going out of it.
And those roads are fast ones. Route 17, the old Quickway that is planned to become Interstate 86, runs with US 6 along the village's edge. Route 17M and Route 208 are close by, Bakertown Road carries local traffic, the Thruway (I-87) is a short drive east at Harriman, and Route 32 runs north and south through Central Valley and Woodbury. It's on the on-ramps and the long grades and the steady 65-mile-an-hour runs that a slipping transmission, a wheel vibration or a lane-keeping fault tends to show up.
On the Middletown side of Route 17 there are two franchised dealer corridors, Route 211 East in the Town of Wallkill and US Route 6 in Wawayanda, both with Middletown mailing addresses. There's also franchised service closer to home, near the Route 17 and Thruway junction by Harriman. Visits to different authorized dealers for the same fault all count toward the four-repair total, so keep every one of the orders together.
Coach USA's Short Line lists commuter service between New York City and Monroe, Central Valley, Harriman, Goshen and Middletown, and the court system notes that the Short Line stops in the Village of Goshen about a mile from the courthouse. The carrier says it's running limited schedules, though, so check its route list before you rely on it for a hearing or a court date.
The Census Bureau's American Community Survey for 2020 to 2024 estimates that about 93 percent of Kiryas Joel residents aged five and over speak a language other than English at home. If you'd prefer to give evidence in another language, 13 NYCRR section 300.11 allows for an interpreter, arranged and paid for by the party requesting one.
RockPoint Law's published service languages are English and Spanish, so if you plan to use an interpreter, tell us on the first call, and that way the hearing request and the timetable allow for it.
The first buyer isn't the only person the law protects. Section 198-a(a)(1) defines a consumer as the purchaser, lessee or transferee of the vehicle, other than someone taking it for resale. Section 198-a(i) adds that the rights "shall inure to a subsequent transferee." That means a vehicle handed on by a parent or a spouse can bring its protection along with it, although the clock doesn't start over. Coverage still counts from the original delivery to the first owner, which is why question 5 of the state form asks for that date and the mileage at delivery.
You'll want the first owner's purchase or lease contract and the delivery paperwork, since those fix the start of the 18,000-mile, two-year window, plus the title or registration showing the transfer and every repair order from both owners. Repairs done before the handover still count toward the four-repair and 30-day totals, as long as they fall inside the window.
If you bought the vehicle used from a dealer, that's a different case, and the purchase usually falls under section 198-b, the used car law, which has its own thresholds. Our New York lemon law page sets them out.
We take claims from Kiryas Joel and from communities nearby in Orange County, including:
Our New York office is in Manhasset, Nassau County: 1129 Northern Blvd., Suite 404, Manhasset, NY 11030. RockPoint doesn't keep an office in Kiryas Joel or anywhere in Orange County, but a visit is rarely needed anyway, since email carries the request to the Attorney General and scans carry the repair orders. The quickest start is the online intake form. We review every request and respond as soon as we can, or you're welcome to call (516) 550-3323.
If you want the statute itself, it's on our New York lemon law page, and the Attorney General's lemon law guide has the forms and the program rules.
These figures come from our firm's published lemon law settlement record across brands. They are firmwide results, not Kiryas Joel outcomes, and they show what a well-documented defect claim can be worth when it's handled properly.
Recovery on a vehicle plagued by engine, electrical, and suspension defects.
Refund for a Macan with recurring suspension, drivetrain, electrical, and HVAC problems.
Recovery after repeated electrical, drive-unit, and suspension failures on an electric pickup.
Figures are drawn from our firm's published settlement record and are not specific to Kiryas Joel or Orange County matters. Prior results do not guarantee or predict a similar outcome in any future case. See more RockPoint Law settlements
I had a really good experience with RockPoint Law. The whole process was a lot easier than I expected and everyone I dealt with was helpful and responsive. Whenever I had a question, I was able to get an answer without feeling like I was chasing anyone down. They handled everything and kept me updated along the way. Definitely glad I reached out to them.
Saw RockPoint Law and wasn't sure. Called anyway because I was at my wit's end. Natalie Nassi answered and she remembered me from somewhere else. Same calm voice, same no-nonsense approach. She took my case and handled everything. Manufacturer bought the car back. Name on the door changed but Natalie didn't. That's what matters to me.
Saw RockPoint Law online and wasn't sure because I hadn't heard of them. But I was desperate. My car had been in and out of the shop for months. Called them up and the person I spoke with was so easy to talk to. No legal mumbo jumbo, just straight talk. They took my case and got me a buyback. New name but they know what they're doing. Would recommend.
Honestly wasn't sure about RockPoint Law since I hadn't heard of them before. But I was desperate. My car had been in the shop five times for the same problem and nobody could figure it out. Service advisor started avoiding my calls. I found RockPoint online, called, and the person I talked to was really down to earth. They took my repair orders and handled the whole thing. A few months later, the manufacturer bought the car back. New name but they got it done. Would use them again in a heartbeat.
Saw RockPoint Law pop up when I was googling lemon law help. Wasn't sure about the name but figured I'd give it a shot. My Jeep Gladiator had a death wobble at highway speeds—front end would shake violently. Dealer replaced the steering stabilizer twice, still shook. The person I talked to at RockPoint was super calm and explained everything clearly. They handled the claim and Jeep bought the truck back. Glad I didn't let the new name scare me off. They got the job done.
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Answers to the questions drivers in Kiryas Joel and southern Orange County ask most, before you send anything.
Yes, it does. Every county in New York is covered, Orange included, and a New York registration meets the coverage test all on its own. Kiryas Joel on one paper and Palm Tree on another? Doesn't matter, because the county is Orange either way.
Yes. Kiryas Joel is a village in Orange County, and New York's lemon laws apply here as they do in every county: General Business Law section 198-a for new vehicles and section 198-b for used vehicles bought from a dealer. Section 198-a(a)(2) covers a vehicle sold with the manufacturer's express warranty that either changed hands in New York by purchase, lease or transfer during its first 18,000 miles or two years, or carries a New York registration. Registered in Kiryas Joel? Then that second test is met on its own. Now, the village shares its boundaries with the Town of Palm Tree, which is why a form or a court paper may name either one, and you might wonder whether that matters. It doesn't. The county is Orange either way, and Orange County is where any court challenge to an arbitration award would be heard.
That's up to you. It's on the state form, which lists 30 locations, and Middletown's the only one in Orange County. If you'd rather not go in person, you can also ask for a virtual hearing or, if the manufacturer agrees, one decided on documents alone.
You choose. Question 22 on the Attorney General's request for arbitration lists 30 hearing locations, and Middletown is the only one in Orange County. Newburgh and Goshen are not on the list, in case you were hoping for one of those. Middletown's about 15 miles from Kiryas Joel in a straight line, so it's not much of a trip. If it doesn't suit you, though, the nearest other choices are Carmel over in Putnam County, Poughkeepsie in Dutchess, Monticello up in Sullivan, Kingston in Ulster and Yonkers down in Westchester. Question 23 lets you ask for an in-person hearing, a virtual one if available, or a hearing on documents alone if the manufacturer agrees. Under 13 NYCRR section 300.7(f), hearings are scheduled around your time-of-day needs where possible, evenings and weekends included, so if there are hours that do not work for you, put them on the form itself rather than bringing them up later.
In Goshen. A buyback belongs in the Orange County Supreme Court there, since Orange County Court stops at $25,000 and the Palm Tree Town Court at $3,000. Suing under Magnuson-Moss for $50,000 or more? That one's federal, in the Southern District of New York.
First off, you've got a choice between state arbitration and a lawsuit. Go the lawsuit route from Kiryas Joel and you'll find the county courts are in Goshen. The Orange County Supreme Court is the one at 285 Main Street. It is the state's trial court of general jurisdiction and hears civil cases involving higher dollar amounts, where a buyback claim for the full purchase or lease price belongs. Orange County Court, at the same address, has civil authority only over claims up to $25,000. The Palm Tree Town Court on Bakertown Road hears civil claims only up to $3,000. A federal warranty claim under the Magnuson-Moss Act needs at least $50,000 in controversy and would go to the Southern District of New York, which covers Orange County. Section 198-a(l) lets a court award reasonable attorney's fees to a consumer who wins.
Only a small one, really. That court's civil and small claims limit is $3,000, and a refund on a recent vehicle is way past that number, so a buyback goes to arbitration or to Supreme Court in Goshen.
Only a small one. Town and village justice courts in New York hear civil suits of up to $3,000, and their small claims parts have the same limit, under section 202 of the Uniform Justice Court Act and the court system's small claims guide. The Palm Tree Town Court is right there inside the village, at 46 Bakertown Road, and if you look it up on nycourts.gov you'll see court hours listed on just two afternoons a month. A lemon law refund covers the purchase or lease price, any trade-in allowance and fees such as registration, less a mileage deduction. Put that together on a vehicle bought in the last two years and it's usually many times $3,000, and filing a trimmed claim there, just to squeeze under the limit, would mean giving up the rest. For a refund or replacement, the choice is the Attorney General's arbitration program or Supreme Court in Goshen.
Orange County, assuming you live in Kiryas Joel and had your hearing in Middletown. Why there? Section 198-a(k) keeps a challenge in your county or the hearing county. And don't sit on it, because either side has 90 days after delivery of the award to apply.
In Orange County, if you live in Kiryas Joel and your hearing was held in Middletown. The award binds both sides. The only way to challenge it is a court proceeding under Article 75 of the Civil Practice Law and Rules, and section 198-a(k) says that proceeding can be brought only in the county where you live or the county where the arbitration was held. What that means for you is that the manufacturer can't haul the case off to some county it likes better. One wrinkle, though. Say you'd picked Poughkeepsie or Carmel as your hearing site; then Dutchess or Putnam would be a second possible county. Under CPLR 7511(a), either side has 90 days after the award is delivered to apply to vacate or modify it, and the grounds are narrow, such as fraud, misconduct or an arbitrator who exceeded their power.
Yes. A van or a big SUV gets the same tests as any car would, and since the statute doesn't set a seat, length or weight limit, the real question with most vans is whether you mainly use it for personal, family or household driving.
Yes, if it meets the same tests as any car. Section 198-a(a)(2) defines a motor vehicle with only one category left out: off-road vehicles. Size doesn't come into it. Nothing in the section sets a seat count, length or weight limit, so a passenger van, a full-size SUV and a compact sedan all get measured the same way. The vehicle needs a manufacturer's written warranty at original delivery, a New York purchase, lease, transfer or registration, and use that is primarily personal, family or household. Of those, it's the use test that decides most van cases. Driving the van for household trips? It qualifies. If it mainly runs a paid route, though, or mainly carries a business's staff or goods, it may not. Oh, and if a converter or upfitter altered the van after it left the factory, bring those papers too.
It can still qualify, yes. The Attorney General's guide is fine with business use as long as personal use is more than half the time, and it says the same about a vehicle a business owns.
It can still qualify. The statute protects a consumer whose vehicle is used primarily for personal, family or household purposes. The Attorney General's lemon law guide explains that a car can also be used for business, as long as you drive it for personal use more than half of the time, and it answers yes when asked whether a car owned or leased by a business is covered, on that same condition. Question 8 of the request form asks about exactly this. Don't guess at it. Answer from records, meaning things like a mileage log, a calendar of work trips or your fuel receipts, which can show where the balance lies. And if business use turns out heavier, the federal Magnuson-Moss Warranty Act may still offer a route, and the New York statute says nothing in it limits rights under other laws.
Possibly. A transferee counts as a consumer under the statute, and the rights pass along to a later owner, but here's the catch: coverage still runs from the first owner's original delivery date.
Possibly, if the timing fits. Section 198-a(a)(1) defines a consumer as the purchaser, lessee or transferee of the vehicle, other than someone buying it for resale, plus anyone else entitled under the warranty to enforce it. Section 198-a(i) adds that the lemon law rights inure to a subsequent transferee. So a car that passed to you from a parent, a spouse or another relative can carry the protection with it. What you don't get is a fresh start on the clock. Coverage still runs from the date of original delivery to the first consumer, for 18,000 miles or two years, whichever comes first. Question 5 of the state form wants the delivery date and the mileage at delivery, which you may not have handy if the car came from family, so track down the first owner's purchase papers and keep them with the repair orders.
Yes, you can. The arbitration rules let any party use an interpreter; the catch is that the party who wants one arranges and pays for it, so sort that out before the hearing date.
Yes. Section 300.11 of the Attorney General's arbitration rules says any party who wants an interpreter makes the arrangements and pays for the service, so it's something to plan before the hearing date, not on the morning of. The same rules let you bring a lawyer or any other person to help you under section 300.10. It helps to tell the program administrator early, and to name the language on your correspondence, so that the hearing time allows for it. The Census Bureau's American Community Survey estimates that most Kiryas Joel residents aged five and over speak a language other than English at home. RockPoint Law's published service languages are English and Spanish, and we'd rather say that plainly up front; we can talk through how an interpreter fits into your hearing plan at the first call. And if the hearing is virtual, ask the administrator in advance how the interpreter will join.
Once the fee is in, the rules set the calendar: a hearing by day 35 and a written decision within 40 days of the filing date. Accept an award, and the manufacturer has 30 days, with a late fee after that.
The rules fix most of the calendar once the fee is paid. First, the Attorney General reviews your request, and only after it is accepted does the program administrator ask for the $250 filing fee. Under 13 NYCRR section 300.5, the day the fee arrives becomes the filing date. The manufacturer's written answer is due within 15 days of that date and your reply within 25 days. The hearing is set no later than day 35, with at least eight days' notice, and section 300.16(a) requires the written decision within 40 days of the filing date. Once you accept an award the manufacturer gets 30 days, and after that section 198-a(h) entitles you to $25 per business day it is late, to a $500 cap. A lawsuit in Goshen, by comparison, usually takes longer.
No, you don't. Our only New York office is in Manhasset, a fair distance from Kiryas Joel, so a claim from here runs by email, scanned repair orders and phone calls, with the hearing in Middletown if you choose it.
No. RockPoint Law has no office in Kiryas Joel or anywhere in Orange County. Our New York office is at 1129 Northern Blvd., Suite 404, in Manhasset, Nassau County, about 45 miles away in a straight line and roughly 62 to 67 miles by road. The firm's Newark office is actually a little closer, about 42 miles, but it's in New Jersey. None of that matters much, though, because a New York claim does not depend on a nearby office. The request for arbitration goes to the Attorney General by email, repair orders can be scanned, and the hearing can be held in Middletown. Call us at (516) 550-3323 or fill in the online form, and we'll set up a call or a video meeting at an hour that works for you, and the people you talk to are the people who would work on your file.
Yes, keep paying. That's what the Attorney General's guide says too, and the reason is simple enough: a repossessed car may not be available to return for a refund or replacement.
Yes, unless your own lawyer tells you otherwise. The Attorney General's lemon law guide says that if the car is financed or leased, you should keep making payments, because a car that is repossessed may no longer be available to return for a refund or replacement. Under section 198-a(c)(2), a refund is paid to you and to the lender as their interests appear on the Department of Motor Vehicles ownership records, and a lease is treated as ended on the date of the arbitrator's decision, with no early-termination penalty. While you're at it, keep the insurance and registration current, and hang on to every monthly payment statement you get, because those are part of the paper trail the refund is calculated from.
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